opinions

[spyder]

Starting a first test Cycle, What do you think is the best to run, Im only looking to run Test and pct.

[madmike925]

Stats???? BTW wise choice for your first cycle:cool:

[spyder]

stats 5'8 189 14% Bf
Diet Chicken(no skin) Fish, Beef( as lean as i can get) Vegies, Fruit
Eat about 4-5 times a day if i can get it in
Sups Creatine, BSN synth 6, multi vit,
Run about 4 miles every morning lift every other day
Goals, Lean out some more and build a solid frame,
Dont want to get huge, like a lean cut and tone


Spyder

[madmike925]

sweet.... Try to maybe eat smaller portians and up it to like 7 meals a day to get your mutabalizm going. Also try and do your running first thing in the morning before breakfast. I know it's hard but it works the best trust me.

About the cycle I would run it at 500mg ew for 10-12 weeks. If you start to bloat to much than you want then take some A-dex for a few days till it drops down to where your comfortable.

[Access]

How old are you?

[spyder]

Damm forgot that too im 30 yrs old. So what kind of test?
Omna, prop, Sus,Enan,

[SteroidShaman]

I'd keep is simple and pin enanthate once a week.The problem with prop or sus/omnadren is you are going to have to poke eod to keep blood levels stable to reduce sides.

[sicilian2579]

go test e 500mg split pin 250mg on monday and 250mg thurs works best for me

[small guy]

For my 1st cycle, I ran Test C at 200mg for 10 weeks and gained 27 pounds!

[Lurch214]

For my 1st cycle, I ran Test C at 200mg for 10 weeks and gained 27 pounds!

WOW, I sure wish that was how my experience went....:p Those are some serious gains.

[spyder]

ok so test E 500mg split in 2, what about HCG and a good pct for that.
im puting it all together for my shopping list.
and if im not really looking to gain 27 lbs would 400 split in 2 work well for gains

[SteroidShaman]

ok so test E 500mg split in 2, what about HCG and a good pct for that.
im puting it all together for my shopping list.
and if im not really looking to gain 27 lbs would 400 split in 2 work well for gains

I'd go 500 split in two.That seems like the magical number for good gains.

[sicilian2579]

ok so test E 500mg split in 2, what about HCG and a good pct for that.
im puting it all together for my shopping list.
and if im not really looking to gain 27 lbs would 400 split in 2 work well for gains

go with 500 split in two run hcg throughout thats what wrks for me pick up some nolvadex 4 pct

[Access]

go with 500 split in two run hcg throughout thats what wrks for me pick up some nolvadex 4 pct

+1

Start HCG around week 4 and do two injects weekly at 250iu's. Run it this way right up until end of cycle. 2 weeks later start Nolva at 20mgs/day for 4 weeks. As a bonus to recovery add in the Testosterone Recovery Stack (http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/Testosterone_Recovery_Stack.html?bid=15&partner=AccessPP)
and run concurrently with Nolva.

[RMX]

I like the test-E/C only @ 500mg. First cycle imo just do 1 shot a week imo. I know 2x is better but you have virgin muscle and are going to be sore as fawk. Hit the glutes/quads rotate them. Eventaully I add in delts.

[johnanthonyhome]

Test e or c, 10 weeks. BTW I'm a BIG fan of HCG, especialy in older guys.
This is how you do it.
http://forums.isteroids.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/69478-hcg-preparation-use.html


By running it on cycle, your gonads never realy shut down in the first place. Also remember that every time your boys go without gonadotropins of some kind, they are desensitized permanently.

[spyder]

ok test E 500mg split at 250 pin monday thursday, Run Hcg all cycle at 250 x 2 IUs a week 2 weeks after end of cycle run 20mg nolva for 4 weeks.
Is that about right

[johnanthonyhome]

You got it bro. Thats the textbook first cycle. Keep us updated.

[spyder]

And the shopping begins bros, oh and next question I have a bit of clen left around can i run that if i want to shed down during the cycle or leave it out

[johnanthonyhome]

And the shopping begins bros, oh and next question I have a bit of clen left around can i run that if i want to shed down during the cycle or leave it out
I say leave it out. I'd do at least two bulking cycles before i think about "cutting" as it were. IMO