Winter strength cycle started

[johnanthonyhome]

Well, I'm going to eat like its a bulker, but I realy wanna concentrate on training hard, so here goes.
Started today.
Weeks 1-10 Test-E 1 gram/week (T 400)
deca 500/week
HCG 100 iu ED
Orals. Anavar 100 mg ed days 1-48
winstrol 50 mg ed weeks 9-13
bridge to pct with prop weeks 11-13
PCT starts with mandatory A-dex at first sign thru week 13 at .25 2x weekly
aromasin weeks 14/15
nolva 40/40/20/20 14,15,16,17
:D

[Oatmeal]

That seems light for you John,lol. How about some before and afters?
Keep us updated Bro.

[johnanthonyhome]

Yes there will be lots-o-cardio.
LOL:p

[Lemmy]

Looks like you've planned it well through and that you know what you're doing. Good luck and keep us updated.

What does eat like a bulker mean? Give us an example of a day's diet, I'm always interested in what people eat.

[johnanthonyhome]

Looks like you've planned it well through and that you know what you're doing. Good luck and keep us updated.

What does eat like a bulker mean? Give us an example of a day's diet, I'm always interested in what people eat.

Wake up-banana. Shake
830 oatmeal
9:30 sausage -n-eggs
130 shake
1200 fast food -or- leftover steak-or- tuna and eggs blah blah (big meal either way) odd days light lunch with fruits and veggies/salad
300 shake
5:00 pre-workout carbs (oatmel or pasta or brown rice and always banana
530 creatine/bcaas
800workout recovery Giant shake w peanut butter,oats
1000 dinner meat and potatoes
12 bedtime nothing
2 am wakeup and shake
700 am do it over.

[researchguy]

looks like a good cycle john. make sure you keep us updated

[Lurch214]

Wake up-banana. Shake
830 oatmeal
9:30 sausage -n-eggs
130 shake
1200 fast food -or- leftover steak-or- tuna and eggs blah blah (big meal either way) odd days light lunch with fruits and veggies/salad
300 shake
5:00 pre-workout carbs (oatmel or pasta or brown rice and always banana
530 creatine/bcaas
800workout recovery Giant shake w peanut butter,oats
1000 dinner meat and potatoes
12 bedtime nothing
2 am wakeup and shake
700 am do it over.

Damn I'm hungry. Reading peoples diets is a love hate thing for me. Looks good john. Keep us posted.

[notyou56]

Imo Anavar 100 mg ed is way to much.thats alot of Anavar bro. u can get great results keeping it btw 50-70.

[johnanthonyhome]

Imo Anavar 100 mg ed is way to much.thats alot of Anavar bro. u can get great results keeping it btw 50-70.i already made the capsules at 100. money was no object at the time.

[kander]

i already made the capsules at 100. money was no object at the time.

I've always wanted to say money was no object and mean it :D

I would think you might benefit more by having a shake before bed and getting 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep for recovery purposes.

[notyou56]

i already made the capsules at 100. money was no object at the time.

its not about money being an issue...you just dont take 100mg of anavar a day let alone all at one dose. seems just a bit off the wall to me imo.

[johnanthonyhome]

I've always wanted to say money was no object and mean it :D

I would think you might benefit more by having a shake before bed and getting 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep for recovery purposes.So, whats wrong with anavar, and a shake , and 7 hrs sleep?
Actualy, I'm taking the var to hit the hell out of the AR in fat cells, and to bind up SHBG like proviron. 'Var is a DHT. I've had a ot of people recomend 80 to 120 mg, so I figured 100 was a nice round number.

[kander]

I'm assuming you've got a few years of experience so I don't have an issue on the var dosage. It's more than I would use, but it may be just right for you. I was basically commenting on it's probably better not to purposely wake up to drink a protein shake because you would benefit more from uninterrupted sleep because that's when the body secretes the largest amount of growth hormone - about an hour or so into a deep sleep. If you are setting an alarm two hours into your nightly sleep you are probably never getting into a deep sleep and keeping yourself from this benefit. I've always heard it's better to sleep and let your body go to work on building muscle. I may drink a shake if I happen to wake up for some other reason.

[burnin69]

Over the var dose I would worry more about desensitizing from the daily HCG.

[johnanthonyhome]

I'm assuming you've got a few years of experience so I don't have an issue on the var dosage. It's more than I would use, but it may be just right for you. I was basically commenting on it's probably better not to purposely wake up to drink a protein shake because you would benefit more from uninterrupted sleep because that's when the body secretes the largest amount of growth hormone - about an hour or so into a deep sleep. If you are setting an alarm two hours into your nightly sleep you are probably never getting into a deep sleep and keeping yourself from this benefit. I've always heard it's better to sleep and let your body go to work on building muscle. I may drink a shake if I happen to wake up for some other reason.I wake up anyway.

Over the var dose I would worry more about desensitizing from the daily HCG.Lack of any gonadotropins is more desensitizing than too much. Also, 100 iu's is bioidentical. The leydig cells recieve an amount of LH daily equivalent to 100iu's hcg. Running 250 iu's 2xweekly would be worse, and running none at all actualy desensitises.

[johnanthonyhome]

Lack of Lh, desensitises testes to Lh. Who wouldve' known.


PCT is a must upon cessation of steroid use. Many great PCT protocols have been outlined over the years, and many individuals have had success with following such protocols. Nevertheless, what works can always work better, and I intend to show you the most effective way to recover from AAS. This is especially the case for those that have had a lack of success following popular advice. In this article I will address the misunderstanding and misuse of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) and show you the most efficient way to use hCG for the fastest and most complete recovery.
HCG unraveled –
Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) is a peptide hormone that mimics the action of luteinizing hormone (LH). LH is the hormone that stimulates the testes to produce testosterone. (1) More specifically LH is the primary signal sent from the pituitary to the testes, which stimulates the leydig cells within the testes to produce testosterone.
When steroids are administered, LH levels rapidly decline. The absence of an LH signal from the pituitary causes the testes to stop producing testosterone, which causes rapid onset of testicular degeneration. The testicular degeneration begins with a reduction of leydig cell volume, and is then followed by rapid reductions in intra-testicular testosterone (ITT), peroxisomes, and Insulin-like factor 3 (INSL3) – All important bio-markers and factors for proper testicular function and testosterone production. (2-6,19) However, this degeneration can be prevented by a small maintenance dose of hCG ran throughout the cycle. Unfortunately, most steroid users have been engrained to believe that hCG should be used after a cycle, during PCT. Upon reviewing the science and basic endocrinology you will see that a faster and more complete recovery is possible if hCG is ran during a cycle.
Firstly, we must understand the clinical history of hCG to understand its purpose and its most efficient application. Many popular “steroid profiles” advocate using hCG at a dose of 2500-5000iu once or twice a week. These were the kind of dosages used in the historical (1960’s) hCG studies for hypogonadal men who had reduced testicular sensitivity due to prolonged LH deficiency. (21,22) A prolonged LH deficiency causes the testes to desensitize, requiring a higher hCG dose for ample stimulation. In men with normal LH levels and normal testicular sensitivity, the maximum increase of testosterone is seen from a dose of only 250iu, with minimal increases obtained from 500iu or even 5000iu. (2,11) (It appears the testes maximum secretion of testosterone is about 140% above their normal capacity.) (12-18) If you have allowed your testes to desensitize over the length of a typical steroid cycle, (8-16 weeks) then you would require a higher dose to elicit a response in an attempt to restore normal testicular size and function – but there is cost to this, and a high probability that you won’t regain full testicular function.
One term that is critical to understand is testosterone secretion capacity which is synonymous to testicular sensitivity. This is the amount of testosterone your testes can produce from any given LH or hCG stimulation. Therefore, if you have reduced testosterone secretion capacity (reduced testicular sensitivity), it will take more LH or hCG stimulation to produce the same result as if you had normal testosterone secretion capacity. If you reduce your testosterone secretion capacity too much, then no amount of LH or hCG stimulation will trigger normal testosterone production – and this leads to permanently reduced testosterone production.
To get an idea of how quickly you can reduce your testosterone secretion capacity from your average steroid cycle, consider this: LH levels are rapidly decreased by the 2nd day of steroid administration. (2,9,10) By shutting down the LH signal and allowing the testis to be non-functional over a 12-16 week period, leydig cell volume decreases 90%, ITT decreases 94%, INSL3 decreases 95%, while the capacity to secrete testosterone decreases as much as 98%. (2-6)
Note: visually analyzing testes size is a poor method of judging your actual testicular function, since testicular size is not directly related to the ability to secrete testosterone. (4) This is because the leydig cells, which are the primary sites of testosterone secretion, only make up about 10% of the total testicular volume. Therefore, when the testes may only appear 5-10% smaller, the testes ability to secrete testosterone upon LH or hCG stimulation can actually be significantly reduced to 98% of their normal production. (3-5) The point here is to not judge testosterone secretion capacity by testicular size.
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The decreased testosterone secretion capacity caused by steroid use was well demonstrated in a study on power athletes who used steroids for 16 weeks, and were then administered 4500iu hCG post cycle. It was found that the steroid users were about 20 times less responsive to hCG, when compared to normal men who did not use steroids. (8) In other words, their testosterone secretion capacity was dramatically reduced because they did not receive an LH signal for 16 weeks. The testes essentially became desensitized and crippled. Case studies with steroid using patients show that aggressive long-term treatment with hCG at dosages as high as 10,000iu E3D for 12 weeks were unable to return full testicular size. (7) Another study with men using low dose steroids for 6 weeks showed unsuccessful return of Insulin-like factor-3 (INSL3) concentration in the testes upon 5000iu/wk of HCG treatment for 12 weeks (6) (INSL3 is an important biomarker for testosterone production potential and sperm production. 20)
These studies show that postponing hCG usage until the end of a steroid cycle increases your need for a higher dose of hCG, and decreases your odds of a full recovery. As a consequence to using a higher dose of hCG at the end of a cycle, estrogen will be increased disproportionately to testosterone, which then causes further HPTA suppression (from high estrogen) while increasing the risk of gyno. (11) For example, high doses of hCG have been found to raise estradiol up to 165%, while only raising testosterone 140%. (11) Higher doses of hCG are also known to reduce LH receptor concentration and degrade the enzymes responsible for testosterone synthesis within the testes (12,13,19 ) -- the last thing someone wants during recovery. While these negative effects of hCG can be partly mitigated by the use of a SERM such as tamoxifen, it will create further problems associated with using a toxic SERM (covered in another article).
In light of the above evidence, it becomes obvious that we must take preventative measures to avoid this testicular degeneration. We must protect our testicular sensitivity. Besides, with hCG being so readily available, and such a painless shot, it makes you wonder why anyone wouldn’t use it on cycle.
Based on studies with normal men using steroids, 100iu HCG administered everyday was enough to preserve full testicular function and ITT levels, without causing desensitization typically associated with higher doses of hCG. (2) It is important that low-dose hCG is started before testicular sensitivity is reduced, which appears to rapidly manifest within the first 2-3 weeks of steroid use. Also, it’s important to discontinue the hCG before you start PCT so your leydig cells are given a chance to re-sensitize to your body’s own LH production. (To help further enhance testicular sensitivity, the dietary supplement may be used)
A more convenient alternative to the above recommendation would be a twice a week shot of 200iu hCG, or possibly a once a week shot of 500iu. However, it is most desirable to adhere to a lower more frequent dose of hCG to mimic the body’s natural LH release and minimize estrogen conversion. If you are starting hCG late in the cycle, one could calculate a rough estimate for their required hCG ‘kick starting’ dosage by multiplying 40iu x days of LH absence, since the testes will be desensitized, thus requiring a higher dose. (ie. 40iu x 60 days = 2400iu HCG dose)
Note: If following the on cycle hCG protocol, hCG should NOT be used for PCT.
Recap –
For preservation of testicular sensitivity, use 100iu hCG ED starting 7 days after your first AAS dose. At the end of the cycle, drop the hCG two weeks before the AAS clear the system. For example, you would drop hCG about the same time as your last Testosterone Enanthate shot. Or, if you are ending the cycle with orals, you would drop the hCG about 10 days before your last oral dose. This will allow for a sudden and even clearance in hormone levels, while initiating LH and FSH production from the pituitary, to begin stimulating your testes to produce testosterone. Remember, recovery doesn’t begin until you are off hCG since your body will not release its own LH until the hCG has cleared the system.
In conclusion, we have learned that utilizing hCG during a steroid cycle will significantly prevent testicular degeneration. This helps create a seamless transition from “on cycle” to “off cycle” thus avoiding the post cycle crash.

[RERUN]

Your AAS cycle seems fine to me. A little excessive for most, but so be it. I kinda question the purpose of the winny, but that isn't something that ever stopped me from doing it before.

What I do wonder about is your diet in relation to your cycle goals. Depending on what these goals are, there are some easy changes that may make a big difference. I do see some room for improvement when it comes to some of your food choices and omissions, and some peri-workout nutrition and supplement changes. Timing is big.

I have no idea how much nutrition knowledge anyone has, and it is impossible for me to critique someones diet in a forum without feeling like I'm being a dick. I do have a lot of knowledge I can share, and I am one-ten sure that being precise with your diet is as important as anything else when it comes to achieving your physique or strength goals.

[johnanthonyhome]

Your AAS cycle seems fine to me. A little excessive for most, but so be it. I kinda question the purpose of the winny, but that isn't something that ever stopped me from doing it before.

What I do wonder about is your diet in relation to your cycle goals. Depending on what these goals are, there are some easy changes that may make a big difference. I do see some room for improvement when it comes to some of your food choices and omissions, and some peri-workout nutrition and supplement changes. Timing is big.

I have no idea how much nutrition knowledge anyone has, and it is impossible for me to critique someones diet in a forum without feeling like I'm being a dick. I do have a lot of knowledge I can share, and I am one-ten sure that being precise with your diet is as important as anything else when it comes to achieving your physique or strength goals. The goal is lean mass and strength, body recomp.
I'm going heavy on the training, maybe lighter on the calories. And banging the hell out of the AR. Please do make suggestions.

[sebass2769]

really informative article. if you dont mind me asking, where did you find it? btw cycle looks good. 100mg of UG var only probably equals about 40-50mg of pharma grade var.

[johnanthonyhome]

really informative article. if you dont mind me asking, where did you find it? btw cycle looks good. 100mg of UG var only probably equals about 40-50mg of pharma grade var.i'm told this shit is pure. I did the melt test and it was slap on.